[act-ma] 6/16 Forum on Iraq with Senator Kerry (Sat)

James in Cambridge tompaine at hotmail.com
Tue Jun 12 20:48:04 PDT 2007


>From: "Joiner Center" <joinercenter at umb.edu>
>To: "Joiner Center" <joinercenter at umb.edu>
>Subject: Forum on Iraq with Senator Kerry
>Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2007 11:44:08 -0400
>
>SENATOR JOHN KERRY TO HOLD
>METROWEST COMMUNITY FORUM ON IRAQ

>Community Forum on Iraq with
>Senator John Kerry
>
>Saturday, June 16, 2007
>
>Keiter Performing Arts Center
>Walnut Hill School
>12 Highland St., Natick
>
>DOORS OPEN AT 3:30 p.m.
>Program starts promptly at 4:00 p.m.
>
>FREE and open to the public.
>
>
>
>Senator Kerry will talk about the war and our future in Iraq and take 
>questions from the audience on Saturday, June 16, from 3:30 to 5:30 p.m. at 
>the Walnut Hill School in Natick. The event, hosted by the Natick 
>Democratic Town Committee, is free and open to the public.
>Please RSVP at www.natickdems.org/rsvp
>or contact Karen Schlosberg at 508-650-4215.
>
>For directions to Walnut Hill, please visit www.walnuthillarts.org.
>
>Please join us at out next public events:
>	l	Annual BBQ, Monday, July 30, featuring Metrowest and statewide 
>legislators
>	l	Community Forum on transportation with Lt. Gov. Tim Murray, Wednesday, 
>September 19
>Please visit www.natickdems.org for more information and join our mailing 
>list to receive advance notice of these and other events.
>
>Please feel free to circulate this invitation to friends and colleagues.

-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------[posted 
by: James in Cambridge]
"Of course the people don't want war. But after all, it's the leaders of the 
country who determine the policy, and it's always a simple matter to drag 
the people along whether it's a democracy, a fascist dictatorship, or a 
parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can 
always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have 
to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for 
lack of patriotism, and exposing the country to greater danger."
                                                      -- Herman Goering at 
the Nuremberg trials

  Source: ***

  Preceded by this, in the original:
    "Why, of course, the people don't want war," Goering shrugged. "Why 
would some poor slob on a farm want to risk his life in a war when the best 
that he can get out of it is to come back to his farm in one piece. 
Naturally, the common people don't want war; neither in Russia nor in 
England nor in America, nor for that matter in Germany. That is understood. 
But, after all, it is the leaders of the country who determine the policy 
and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a 
democracy or a fascist dictatorship or a Parliament or a Communist 
dictatorship."

"There is one difference," I pointed out. "In a democracy the people have 
some say in the matter through their elected representatives, and in the 
United States only Congress can declare wars."

[*** His comments were made privately to Gustave Gilbert, a German-speaking 
intelligence officer and psychologist who was granted free access by the 
Allies to all the prisoners held in the Nuremberg jail. Gilbert kept a 
journal of his observations of the proceedings and his conversations with 
the prisoners, which he later published in the book Nuremberg Diary. The 
quote offered above was part of a conversation Gilbert held with a dejected 
Hermann Goering in his cell on the evening of 18 April 1946, as the trials 
were halted for a three-day Easter recess... (snopes.com)]

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